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Post by Pacific Coast Trail Runs on Aug 1, 2007 22:38:29 GMT -5
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miki
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Post by miki on Aug 2, 2007 17:38:09 GMT -5
Sarah, are the roads to the aid stations all paved or is there some off-roading involved. Want to bring the right vehicle just in case I need to hop around.
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Jon
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Post by Jon on Aug 2, 2007 18:29:50 GMT -5
When will the race day instructions be available?
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Post by Pacific Coast Trail Runs on Aug 2, 2007 19:09:39 GMT -5
Miki - there's nothing off road. The worst thing you'll have to drive is an unpaved parking lot. It's very crew and helper friendly - most of the aid stations even have bathroom/porta-potties!
Jon - Wendell thinks that the race day instructions will be ready on Monday. Are you looking forward to your first hundred? What movie are you seeing immediately following?
Sarah
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Post by thr3ee on Aug 2, 2007 19:40:33 GMT -5
Well, sounds like all the information is just about in order there on the site (other than the elevation profile, is it 15K, 17K or 23K gain? ). Now its just the hardest part of the entire race...waiting and keeping myself from running too much beforehand! I'm picking up a big ZombieRunner order tomorrow and getting my gear and "never-drop" bags in order this weekend. On that note, will there be anything extra at the aid stations beyond what you usually carry? I assume we'll be able to get some of that chicken soup (or chili) at the 50M point. -Steve
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Post by pctrailruns on Aug 2, 2007 20:08:02 GMT -5
Hey, Steve,
The elevation is 17,720' and, you're right, I need to update the Elevation Profile.
Yes, we're planning on chicken soup, chili, pizza, and other good stuff at Rodeo Beach. Tennessee Valley will have soup and chili, at least.
Wendell (PCTR)
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Post by Pacific Coast Trail Runs on Aug 2, 2007 20:38:38 GMT -5
And I'm hopeful that some of the aid station captains will bring at least one 'different' item/dish to their stations - something other than what we normally have, and something more filling of the 'real food' variety. I also plan to have some type of vegetarian soup at Rodeo Beach and probably at TV, as well as tortellini at RB - which can be eaten plain or in broth. And I'm hoping to have turkey/cheese type sandwiches at all/most of the aid stations in addition to PB&J. I'd better go make dinner - all this talk is making me hungry! Sarah
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Post by thr3ee on Aug 3, 2007 11:30:20 GMT -5
Right on! It all sounds awesome, especially the soup. I know the warm chicken soup at AR50 totally got me going through the second half of the race. I tried a bit of turkey sandwich at TRT50, but it just seemed too dry in the mouth so I went back to PB&J. However, I may have to try again or make some concoction of my own since I think that I will want something different at night. Sandwiches will be a must since August is National Sandwich Month www.keaggy.com/sandwich/ ;D As for the food talk making me hungry, that brings me to my other big issue right now: how to keep from gaining weight while tapering! -Steve
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Jon
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Post by Jon on Aug 3, 2007 14:44:18 GMT -5
Jon - Wendell thinks that the race day instructions will be ready on Monday. Are you looking forward to your first hundred? What movie are you seeing immediately following? Sarah Yes, I'm looking forward to it, but I'm also a little anxious. No movies planned afterwards. Of course, you never know. I have a few questions for you and other 100 veterans: 1. How critical is it to have a pacer? Is it nice to have, but not a must? Are there other reasons besides company/moral boost to consider? For example, health and safety? 2. What sorts of things do you put in your drop bag? I've been able to sustain myself with the spread provided by PCTR. I will be leaving extra clothes and gear at Rodeo, but wasn't sure if I'm overlooking anything for Tennessee Valley. 3. Any suggestion on how far to run this weekend? As for next week, I was just planning on doing a couple short runs during the week.
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Post by harrywalther on Aug 3, 2007 15:07:47 GMT -5
Jon, it'll be my first attempt at 100 miles at HH for me, too. I'm really not anxious about it - what's the worst that can happen? I crap out somewhere between 50 and 100 miles. so what. either I'll try again or I won't. It's not like I'm going to try something that's never been done before!
(ok, that probably wasn't too helpful)
here's something possibly unique that I'm planning to do: bring a tooth brushing kit. the taste in my moth after 50 miles of gu, cookies and sports drink is awful. I figure just the feeling of clean teeth will carry me through at least 5 miles.
my special food will be rice and soy sauce. I get most of my carbs from rice on a daily base and if there's anything my body won't have problems processing then it should be the stuff it's used to.
pacer: odd choice again. I asked a guy who is a 2:30 marathoner to keep me company for 75 - 100. He's got virtually no trail experience but he's tough and good company and that's what I figure will count. I don't need a nanny - I need entertainment!
running: I did a 6 miler on trails today, will do 7 miles on roads tomorrow and probably about 10 combined road / trail next week.
but it really doesn't matter. from my exercise physiology classes I know that you'll be losing cardio fitness way faster than muscular fitness, so I'm planning on running and swimming at close to max effort a few times next week, but very short distances.
again - that's just for peace of mind. I'm convinced the last 25 miles have nothing to do with fitness, preparation or anything you can prepare for - it's terra icognita for us newbies and all we can do is look forward to the great experience of exploring it! (imagine dramatical music here)
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Post by thr3ee on Aug 3, 2007 15:49:47 GMT -5
Another first-timer here. I am not using a pacer (or a crew for that matter). I've never used one in shorter races either and I'm not a personal fan of the idea. I tend to run "within myself" at the end of races and having another person to deal with (or expecting someone else to deal with me) seems like it would hurt rather than help my focus. We'll see if this holds for a 100. I'm planning to do a run this evening and one more this weekend both of medium length (i.e. under 2 hours). I may do one of them at night to test out my new Fenix flashlight. I am staying completely off of the roads. Next week I plan to do very little if any running, but may hit the gym a couple days and do some stationary cycling. I plan to focus on making sure everything is rested and all my little persistent achy bits are feeling better. I'm thinking of getting a nice sports massage too. As for my anxiety level, I think it is probably closer to yours than to Harry's. However, since I will be sharing a room with him the night before the race, I will work on his anxiety level. Perhaps I'll hide his toothbrush or put something in his toothpaste...or just let him THINK I put something in his toothpaste . However, I should probably be careful because I know he has a fondness for my running shoes. ;D One thing we can all be sure of, with the number of first-timers in this race, you are not alone in any of your thoughts or concerns!
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Jon
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Post by Jon on Aug 3, 2007 16:02:34 GMT -5
Great advice guys. I like the tooth brush/paste idea. It's funny..., I want the race to be tomorrow, but I'm also glad it's not. Drank too much last night.
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Post by ultrajegi on Aug 3, 2007 18:13:25 GMT -5
I have not yet used a pacer in a 100. I don't think in this race there's any safety issue, either. The course isn't really that remote, and I am sure Sarah and Wendell will do a first-class job of keeping track of everyone.
A pacer is good to keep you going faster (or going at all), and can prevent you from making some dumb mistakes (like getting lost). However there's some satisfaction you get from doing it all by yourself.
Generally there are also some unspoken rules that some believe should be obeyed when running with a pacer, such as the pacer should always be behind you, no muling (at least not your whole pack), etc.
Anyways, you'll be fine either way. You'll find that if you really get into a funk, your fellow runners will help you out!
Beat
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Post by leinfellner on Aug 3, 2007 19:01:52 GMT -5
OK, here's what I'll do to cheer you on: After my 50 miles I'll sit in my comfy chair and drink my beer to your health and shout a big HOORAY everytime you pass by! (If I ever come as far as 50 miles) Wait - this is not Nevada so I skip the beer Seriously speaking the last comments of you guys made more sense than the earlier ones - you are now getting into the "Who cares" phase - which is a great way of self-protection. As for pacing, at WS100 I was pacing in front of my runner for illuminate the trail and warn her of any odd terrain dangers. I adore you guys - good luck! Norbert
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Post by nightowl on Aug 4, 2007 17:26:39 GMT -5
I think in nice to have a crew and pacer on anything longer than a 50 miler. For me crew is just seeing a friendly face, I'm going to use drop bags and invite a few friends to come out and chear me on during the day.
For the night I'm using a pacer. Its just great to have someone there to keep you company and keep you moving.
Its a good idea to have somebody at the finish, one to see you finish and take a picture and also just in case you are unable to drive or need some assistance moving. Sometimes once you stop, you stop, and moving again can be challenging. I'm not sure what kind of medical support there is at the finish, but its nice to have a friend who can take care of you just in case.
One recommendation if you are running crew/pacerless take a cell phone there is limited cell phone coverage along the way, but it nice to be able to call a someone for support just incase, also you can get friends to send insperational text messages.
Good luck, looking forward to running with all of you
Craig
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